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What number sets does the number 3.4028

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repeating belong to?

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And before even answering the question, let's just think

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about what this represents.

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And especially what this line on top means.

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So this line on top means that the 28 just

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keep repeating forever.

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So I could express this number as 3.4028, but the 28 just

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keep repeating.

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Just keep repeating on and on and on forever.

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I could just keep writing them forever and ever.

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And obviously, it's just easier to write this line over

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the 28 to say that it repeats forever.

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Now let's think about what number sets it belongs to.

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Well, the broadest number set we've dealt with so far is the

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real numbers.

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And this definitely belongs to the real numbers.

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The real numbers is essentially the entire number

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line that we're used to using.

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And 3.4028 repeating sits someplace over here.

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If this is negative 1, this is 0, 1, 2, 3, 4.

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3.4028 is a little bit more than 3.4, a little

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bit less than 3.41.

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It would sit right over there.

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So it definitely sits on the number line.

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It's a real number.

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So it definitely is real.

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It definitely is a real number.

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But the not so obvious question is whether it is a

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rational number.

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Remember, a rational number is one that can be expressed as a

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rational expression or as a fraction.

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If I were to tell you that p is rational, that means that p

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can be expressed as the ratio of two integers.

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That means that p can be expressed as the ratio of two

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integers, m/n.

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So the question is, can I express this as the ratio of

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two integers?

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Or another way to think of it, can I

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express this as a fraction?

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And to do that, let's actually express it as a fraction.

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Let's define x as being equal to this number.

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So x is equal to 3.4028 repeating.

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Let's think about what 10,000x is.

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And the only reason why I want 10,000x is because I want to

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move the decimal point all the way to the right over here.

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So 10,000x.

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What is that going to be equal to?

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Well every time you multiply by a power of 10, you shift

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the decimal one to the right.

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10,000 is 10 to the fourth power.

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So it's like shifting the decimal over to

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the right four spaces.

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1, 2, 3, 4.

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So it'll be 34,028.

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But these 28's just keep repeating.

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So you'll still have the 28's go on and on, and on and on,

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and on after that.

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They just all got shifted to the left of the decimal point

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by five spaces.

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You can view it that way.

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That makes sense.

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It's nearly 3 and 1/2.

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If you multiply by 10,000, you get almost 35,000.

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So that's 10,000x.

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Now, let's also think about 100x.

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And my whole exercise here is I want to get two numbers

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that, when I subtract them and they're in terms of x, the

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repeating part disappears.

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And then we can just treat them as traditional numbers.

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So let's think about what 100x is.

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100x.

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That moves this decimal point.

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Remember, the decimal point was here originally.

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It moves it over to the right two spaces.

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So 100x would be 300-- Let me write it like this.

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It would be 340.28 repeating.

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We could have put the 28 repeating here, but it

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wouldn't have made as much sense.

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You always want to write it after the decimal point.

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So we have to write 28 again to show that it is repeating.

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Now something interesting is going on.

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These two numbers, they're just multiples of x.

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And if I subtract the bottom one from the top one, what's

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going to happen?

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Well the repeating part is going to disappear.

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So let's do that.

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Let's do that on both sides of this equation.

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Let's do it.

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So on the left-hand side of this equation, 10,000x minus

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100x is going to be 9,900x.

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And on the right-hand side, let's see-- The decimal part

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will cancel out.

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And we just have to figure out what 34,028 minus 340 is.

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So let's just figure this out.

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8 is larger than 0, so we won't have to do any

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regrouping there.

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2 is less than 4.

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So we will have to do some regrouping, but we can't

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borrow yet because we have a 0 over there.

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And 0 is less than 3, so we have to do some regrouping

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there or some borrowing.

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So let's borrow from the 4 first.

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So if we borrow from the 4, this becomes a 3 and then this

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becomes a 10.

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And then the 2 can now borrow from the 10.

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This becomes a 9 and this becomes a 12.

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And now we can do the subtraction.

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8 minus 0 is 8.

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12 minus 4 is 8.

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9 minus 3 is 6.

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3 minus nothing is 3.

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3 minus nothing is 3.

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So 9,900x is equal to 33,688.

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We just subtracted 340 from this up here.

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So we get 33,688.

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Now, if we want to solve for x, we just divide

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both sides by 9,900.

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Divide the left by 9,900.

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Divide the right by 9,900.

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And then, what are we left with?

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We're left with x is equal to 33,688 over 9,900.

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Now what's the big deal about this?

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Well, x was this number. x was this number that we started

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off with, this number that just kept on repeating.

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And by doing a little bit of algebraic manipulation and

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subtracting one multiple of it from another, we're able to

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express that same exact x as a fraction.

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Now this isn't in simplest terms. I mean they're both

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definitely divisible by 2 and it looks like by 4.

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So you could put this in lowest common form, but we

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don't care about that.

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All we care about is the fact that we were able to represent

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x, we were able to represent this number, as a fraction.

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As the ratio of two integers.

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So the number is also rational.

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It is also rational.

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And this technique we did, it doesn't only

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apply to this number.

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Any time you have a number that has repeating digits, you

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could do this.

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So in general, repeating digits are rational.

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The ones that are irrational are the ones that never, ever,

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ever repeat, like pi.

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And so the other things, I think it's pretty obvious,

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this isn't an integer.

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The integers are the whole numbers that

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we're dealing with.

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So this is someplace in between the integers.

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It's not a natural number or a whole number, which depending

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on the context are viewed as subsets of integers.

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So it's definitely none of those.

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So it is real and it is rational.

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That's all we can say about it.