1 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 this is sal here again and i'm still here with my good friend Dr maja Devon from Stanford University. 2 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In the last video we had looked at adequacy of x-rays for the neck, is the x-ray good enough? 3 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But now, lets assume that we have good x-rays, now what do we look at? 4 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Dr Devon: The next step is to look at the alignment, so we talk about the A, B, C's 5 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The A, B, C's of reading a cerebral-spinal film. A starts with Adequacy, that we went over, and the 6 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 second part of A is Alignment. 7 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Sal: Ok, so we're still in A, I was expecting something with a B... 8 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Alright, Alignment. Alright, so this looks like this is about alignment. 9 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is about Alignment, and there's four lines that we look at. the first is the anterior vertebral 10 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 body line. Ok, AVBL right over there. 11 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Exactly, and basically what you're doing is trying to draw a smooth line that connects the anterior aspect, 12 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the front of, all the vertebral bodies, it should be nice and smooth, it's usually curved, and all the 13 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 points should sort of fit on that line; nothing should be off of that line. That would suggest that 14 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 there was a problem there. 15 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I see, and anterior as you just said means front. 16 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Exactly. The next line is going to the back of the vertebral body is the Posterior Vertebral body. 17 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 OK, so not the back of the entire vertabrae, the vertebral body, which is this boxy part right in front. 18 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Exactly. So, same thing, connecting a line up and down, should be nice and smooth as you've drawn it, 19 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and nothing should fall off that line, no piece of the vertebral body should fall off of that line as 20 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you've drawn it. 21 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Alright, sounds good. And then? 22 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The next is we connect all the spinal laminar junctions. So this is the spinal laminar line, and it's 23 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 where, sort of the lamina connects to the spinous process. 24 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Spinous process, sounds like we could make a whole video about that... 25 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Spinous process, if you look at the back of somebody's neck are those little bumps that you can see... 26 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Oh, ok, so these triangular things right here... 27 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Exactly 28 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Oh, ok, so you are just connecting that line, kind of the front of these triangles, the base of these 29 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 triangles, so to speak. 30 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Exactly. 31 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 OK, then the last one? 32 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The last line is the spinous process tips. And again, we're just connecting the top, the tip, 33 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of all the spinous processes, the little bony projections you can see if you look at the back of 34 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 somebody's neck. 35 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Right, right. 36 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And these, too, should generally fall in a nice smooth curve. 37 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Right, and so the general rule is that if any of these aren't aligned the way that we've drawn here, 38 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it's a problem. 39 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Exactly, we call it subluxation, or malalignment, or misalignment... 40 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 OK 41 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And these all suggest that there is a problem there. 42 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Which is a big deal, because your spinal cord is going through there 43 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Absolutely! If you look between the green and the blue line, that's where your actual spinal cord runs. 44 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Right, right, right down there. 45 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Exactly. 46 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I see, so you don't want that to get messed up. 47 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Alright, so let's look at a few of these x-rays and see if we can, or if anything's wrong, if we can 48 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 spot it. 49 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Actually, Sal, now that you know how to read cerebrospinal x-rays, I'm going to have you look at the 50 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 first x-ray. 51 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughing) OK, let's see, so now I'm going to get sued for malpractice! Ok, let's see, alright... 52 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This one over here, so let me just do the first one. Let me just go over what you told me to do. 53 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So I'm going to do the anterior side of this vertebral body... 54 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Exactly. 55 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I'm learning the words, too, talking like a doctor...OK, so I'm going to draw a line here. 56 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 OK, that looks pretty good. 57 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Yup 58 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 That looks decent, this still looks decent, and I don't know, that doesn't look great, would this count? 59 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I mean, this looks like it got shifted over a little bit 60 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Absolutely. 61 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I mean, it's not like like a huge shifting, but it's enough to, that it's not easy to draw a line, so, 62 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so I was right? 63 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You're absolutely right, and in fact sometimes it's very subtle. You picked up a very subtle abnormality, 64 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but again, even though it's subtle on the x-ray it can be serious for the patient, so you potentially 65 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 saved their spinal cord and their lives by picking up an injury like this. 66 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 OK, very good. So it's literally something as subtle as that is what you're looking for. 67 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Exactly. Again, it should be a nice smooth line or nice smooth curve, and as you can see, 68 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 at that junction, it's no longer smooth. 69 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You don't even have to look at the other lines, you just, any one of these, that don't go on a line, 70 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that's enough, you say, hey, do something else. 71 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Exactly, and that's a great important teaching point, which is if you see any abnormality 72 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 on a plain film, or on an x-ray like this, you stop, and you protect their cervical spine, 73 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and then you get a more important study or better quality study like a CT scan. 74 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Fascinating. Although if I do look here, it does look like we could have done the PVBL 75 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and it looks like that also is a little off, too. 76 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Absolutely. 77 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Well, let's look at a few more. 78 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Great 79 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I don't want to focus too much on my first victory... 80 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Alright, so it's clear that this person is facing this way, I can see their teeth. 81 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So let's see what we can do here. Can I give it a shot again? 82 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Please, please- 83 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, AVBL looks pretty good. This is, well, that looks close, it looks close... 84 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I agree, and potentially again, you've got a very keen eye and you might have picked it up, 85 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but most people might have overlooked that. 86 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Ok, so let's try the other lines here. So this one is more obvious, this one is more obvious, there 87 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is kind of a disconnection right over there. 88 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Exactly, and this is the PVBL, or the posterior verterbral body line, and you can see clearly that line is not smooth, it doesn't connect, 89 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and so there is a problem right there at that junction. 90 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Ok, ok, Alright, so we have this last one right over here. Let's see what I can do, I don't want to 91 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 lose my streak... 92 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Alright, so anterior side, this actually looks pretty perfect, actually. 93 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And in fact, it is perfect. 94 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 OK, let me try the next lines here. 95 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is the Posterior Vertebral body line 96 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Let me do that in a color that's easier to see, magenta, alright. It looks ok, ok, it looks ok, I mean 97 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 nothing obvious on that line. 98 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I would say again that you've got the keen eye, but in this particular case, I'd say it's fine. 99 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Its within the normal range, as we say. 100 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Ok, and so let me do the base of those triangles. Let me do, so this is a triangle right over here... 101 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Again, you want to be a nice smooth curve, everything should fall on that curve... 102 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So this, I would have to be a little bit generous with my curve to make it go to these guys down here. 103 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Exactly, exactly. And this is the spinal laminar line, this is the third line of alignment, as you can