1 00:00:01,184 --> 00:00:05,642 This is Sal here and I'm at Stanford Medical School with Dr. Andy Connelly. 2 00:00:05,642 --> 00:00:10,240 Hi there Sal, I'm here to discuss with you histology today. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,745 Histology! And, and forgive me, for what is probably a simple question, but what is histology? 4 00:00:14,745 --> 00:00:20,178 So it will be the -ology, the study of, in this case the histo-, means tissues. 5 00:00:20,178 --> 00:00:28,800 We're going to be looking up the cellular components of organs. 6 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:29,300 Cool... yeah. 7 00:00:29,300 --> 00:00:32,578 So what we're going to be looking at today is the histology of the colon. 8 00:00:32,578 --> 00:00:39,683 And so for the colon we often have colon specimens coming in from pathology. 9 00:00:39,683 --> 00:00:45,813 And so the colon, like you were saying before, is the large intestine. 10 00:00:45,813 --> 00:00:53,150 So if you have this piece of large intestine, and its removed from the patient because there is an area 11 00:00:53,150 --> 00:00:54,451 of cancer. 12 00:00:54,451 --> 00:01:01,324 It might be cancer, they're actually pretty good now about doing colonoscopy. 13 00:01:01,324 --> 00:01:03,460 Looking from the inside-- 14 00:01:03,460 --> 00:01:09,637 They'll often have looked inside think it looks like cancer 15 00:01:09,637 --> 00:01:12,795 take a little piece and send it to us before hand, and then they remove it. 16 00:01:12,795 --> 00:01:15,488 And the reason why they want to send it to you is 17 00:01:15,488 --> 00:01:18,089 even if they know its cancer how severe is this cancer? 18 00:01:18,089 --> 00:01:22,686 How severe is the cancer? They also want to get a really good tissue diagnosis 19 00:01:22,686 --> 00:01:28,027 to make sure if they're going to go remove a piece of your colon, that they really know that its cancer 20 00:01:28,027 --> 00:01:30,349 rather than it just looks like cancer. 21 00:01:30,349 --> 00:01:32,485 So its the definitive proof before they remove it. 22 00:01:32,485 --> 00:01:38,011 So then if this is the cancer that's removed they clearly want to be able to check the margins 23 00:01:38,011 --> 00:01:41,773 to make sure its removed in its entirety. 24 00:01:41,773 --> 00:01:46,417 But often inside of there, they'll find other pieces of tissues, like here's a polyp 25 00:01:46,417 --> 00:01:50,597 And when we say check the margins, this is literally, just making sure 26 00:01:50,597 --> 00:01:53,197 you've covered enough material so that you've gotten all the cancer in it 27 00:01:53,197 --> 00:01:56,030 that you're not kind of cutting through the cancer and that you've missed something. 28 00:01:56,030 --> 00:01:58,445 That's right, because this is actually one of the traditional 29 00:01:58,445 --> 00:02:01,464 surgical cures of cut it out to cure. 30 00:02:01,464 --> 00:02:04,296 Colon cancer, that tends to still be the case. 31 00:02:04,296 --> 00:02:07,036 Because you cut it out to make sure you cure it. 32 00:02:07,036 --> 00:02:09,916 There are many other kinds of cancers that which spread so widely early on 33 00:02:09,916 --> 00:02:12,238 that you don't usually cut out. 34 00:02:12,238 --> 00:02:17,625 So then the polyp can be found in a piece of colon removed 35 00:02:17,625 --> 00:02:20,458 a polyp is something that just sticks up. 36 00:02:20,458 --> 00:02:23,940 Any tissue that sticks up. It's not necessarily cancer. 37 00:02:23,940 --> 00:02:28,677 No, so for instance another common place you hear about is 38 00:02:28,677 --> 00:02:30,953 some people in the sinuses might have sinus trouble 39 00:02:30,953 --> 00:02:32,903 and they'll have a sinus polyp 40 00:02:32,903 --> 00:02:34,947 those are almost always just inflamed. 41 00:02:34,947 --> 00:02:40,705 And then we'll find areas in which it's just the lining 42 00:02:40,705 --> 00:02:43,167 that's been roughened, and we'll take sections of those. 43 00:02:43,167 --> 00:02:46,835 And that can happen from just someone being allergic to food 44 00:02:46,835 --> 00:02:48,832 Yeah, irritations of such. 45 00:02:48,832 --> 00:02:51,108 Yes, irritations of certain sites. 46 00:02:51,108 --> 00:02:54,544 So we're going to have the areas where its kind of irritated 47 00:02:54,544 --> 00:02:56,774 some in which there's a polyp sticking out 48 00:02:56,774 --> 00:02:59,328 and we'll look at it under a microscope 49 00:02:59,328 --> 00:03:02,439 and then that's the thing that we're mainly worried about 50 00:03:02,439 --> 00:03:06,479 So that's what we're going to cover in the slides 51 00:03:06,479 --> 00:03:08,616 that we look at today. 52 00:03:08,616 --> 00:03:11,170 So this first one we're looking at is an example of 53 00:03:11,170 --> 00:03:12,842 a normal margin 54 00:03:12,842 --> 00:03:14,792 And so it's from a little piece 55 00:03:14,792 --> 00:03:16,139 from the edge 56 00:03:16,139 --> 00:03:18,832 So they actually call the tissue margin? 57 00:03:18,832 --> 00:03:20,040 Yeah, tissue margin 58 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,805 Normal tissue. 59 00:03:21,805 --> 00:03:25,613 So this is the edge of the specimen, and [the surgeons will] say, "Is the margin clear?" 60 00:03:25,613 --> 00:03:29,049 Dr: In this case this is an example where the margin IS clear. 61 00:03:29,049 --> 00:03:30,814 This is normal-looking colon. 62 00:03:30,814 --> 00:03:34,808 S: This is a cross-section, crossing the boundary of the colon, 63 00:03:34,808 --> 00:03:43,306 this area at the top right here, would be the inside of the colon, where the poop is... 64 00:03:43,306 --> 00:03:51,665 Dr: Doctors say stool. That's the stool in the middle, and the supportive tissue is underneath. 65 00:03:51,665 --> 00:03:53,941 S: Part of the structural tissue of the tube? 66 00:03:53,941 --> 00:03:59,328 Dr: Right. Now let's drive around the slide. 67 00:03:59,328 --> 00:04:04,622 This is a virtual slide where we took the typical glass microscope slide, and put it in a special 68 00:04:04,622 --> 00:04:09,452 machine which took lots and lots of photographs at high power, then stitched them all together 69 00:04:09,452 --> 00:04:13,214 as one massive image. So that allows you to zoom in and look around. 70 00:04:13,214 --> 00:04:16,511 S: To let me get my own bearings, this polyp... 71 00:04:16,511 --> 00:04:20,690 Dr: No, this is just regular tissue--a little bit of a fold, not a polyp. 72 00:04:20,690 --> 00:04:25,102 S: So how large is this, about a centimeter? 73 00:04:25,102 --> 00:04:31,464 Dr: About like that. If I had to guess, about 5-6mm. 74 00:04:31,464 --> 00:04:43,167 So, now to drive around, these are the controls for zooming in and out. 75 00:04:43,167 --> 00:04:55,288 So I can look at something more closely, and this is the mucosa. 76 00:04:55,288 --> 00:04:57,935 S: Mucosa. Sounds very similar to mucus. 77 00:04:57,935 --> 00:05:03,369 Dr: Right. The mucosa is the lining that makes the mucus, it's the slimy part. 78 00:05:03,369 --> 00:05:07,270 S: This white stuff up here? 79 00:05:07,270 --> 00:05:16,418 Dr: This suff is the slimy mucus. So, it keeps the insides from drying out-- 80 00:05:16,418 --> 00:05:21,666 because it's a very hydrated gel. It also means that things can glide along without 81 00:05:21,666 --> 00:05:25,613 abrading the surface. When you look at it, it has architecture in which 82 00:05:25,613 --> 00:05:36,016 these glands, they're like test-tubes sticking down, and the purpose is to increase the surface area. 83 00:05:36,016 --> 00:05:42,285 S: And the term gland, is any structure containing fluid and releases the fluid? 84 00:05:42,285 --> 00:05:49,066 Dr: A gland is an epithelial structure, so it's made of cells that are packed tightly, 85 00:05:49,066 --> 00:05:54,220 and the cells have a top and a bottom, and they're formed into some sort of enfolding 86 00:05:54,220 --> 00:05:57,285 or structure, so that there is a middle and an outside. 87 00:05:57,285 --> 00:06:04,112 S: When we say something is epithelial, it's the stuff facing the outside world? 88 00:06:04,112 --> 00:06:09,824 Dr: Yes. The epithelium is a special class of cells in which they are facing the outside world, 89 00:06:09,824 --> 00:06:13,168 again, tightly packed, and there's a top and a bottom. 90 00:06:13,168 --> 00:06:19,437 S: And even though to a layperson this area right here does not seem like the outside world, 91 00:06:19,437 --> 00:06:21,806 it seems like it's inside of you, we're kind of like big donuts. 92 00:06:21,806 --> 00:06:27,239 Dr: That's right. And the colonoscopist proves that it's connected to the outside world. 93 00:06:27,239 --> 00:06:29,793 S: MUAHAHA!! I guess they do prove that! XD 94 00:06:29,793 --> 00:06:40,428 Dr: So that's still the outside world. This is the architecture where you have enfoldings to increase 95 00:06:40,428 --> 00:06:42,843 the surface area. And it's creating this mucus. 96 00:06:42,843 --> 00:06:50,831 Let me look at the highest power. Look at these cells! When we look at these cells, 97 00:06:50,831 --> 00:06:56,914 there are two main types of cells. There's this one here, which is the goblet cell. 98 00:06:56,914 --> 00:07:05,691 S: Goblet cell. It's not just this white part, it goes all the way down there? 99 00:07:05,691 --> 00:07:13,075 Dr: Yeah...let me have that pen! It has a top like that, and you see this wine glass? 100 00:07:13,075 --> 00:07:20,366 S: It's literally shaped like a goblet! I was circling the wrong handle. 101 00:07:20,366 --> 00:07:23,524 Dr: That nucleus belonged to some other cell. 102 00:07:23,524 --> 00:07:32,627 What's next to it is these thin cells here, which do not have all the mucus inside of them. 103 00:07:32,627 --> 00:07:35,367 These guys are the tall ones. 104 00:07:35,367 --> 00:07:39,685 S: Where you see only the nucleus? The white part is just the mucus inside the cell. 105 00:07:39,685 --> 00:07:52,781 Dr: Yes. Mucus is the term for either the overall structure or the material that is elaborated up here, 106 00:07:52,781 --> 00:07:59,608 chemically it is called mucin, and mucin is almost like that goo runners eat, 107 00:07:59,608 --> 00:08:02,813 it is just a lot of sugar holding a lot of water. 108 00:08:02,813 --> 00:08:08,014 S: I see. I guess it would be bad branding to call it Mucus-In-A-Bag. MUAHAHA!! >:-} 109 00:08:08,014 --> 00:08:13,354 Dr: Exactly! So they stick with "goo". But this one has a lot of sugar, takes in lots of water, 110 00:08:13,354 --> 00:08:16,419 that is released and it forms this surface here. 111 00:08:16,419 --> 00:08:19,159 S: To let stuff flow by. 112 00:08:19,159 --> 00:08:23,246 Dr: What the other cell does is the other main thing in addition to letting things flow through, 113 00:08:23,246 --> 00:08:29,144 is to absorb water. So the idea is you do not want to release the 2L of fluid you have 114 00:08:29,144 --> 00:08:32,766 around every one of your meals. You want to get a lot of that back. 115 00:08:32,766 --> 00:08:35,042 S: That's one of the main functions of the large intestine? 116 00:08:35,042 --> 00:08:38,618 Dr: It is. It is a consolidation process to the stool. So you're going to absorb a lot of water 117 00:08:38,618 --> 00:08:44,423 and doing it through these cells. 118 00:08:44,423 --> 00:08:54,686 S: The mucin comes out here, and the water absorbed by parts without mucin, so right there. 119 00:08:54,686 --> 00:09:02,256 Dr: Yupperz. That's right. The two main functions of the colon are right there with those two cells. 120 00:09:02,256 --> 00:09:13,494 S: To get a perspective of where we are, the whole thing is about .5cm, what's our scale here? 121 00:09:13,494 --> 00:09:26,776 Dr: Our favorite scale-bar here is to look for blood vessels, for red blood cells, 122 00:09:26,776 --> 00:09:30,120 One right there, is 7micro- m in diameter. 123 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:36,296 S: 7micro-m. A micrometer is a millionth of a meter, or 1/1000th of 1mm. 124 00:09:36,296 --> 00:09:41,219 Dr: That's right. Let's round off to 1/100th of 1mm. 125 00:09:41,219 --> 00:09:47,024 S: You put 100 of these next to each other you get 1mm. So 1mm would be bigger than our entire screen. 126 00:09:47,024 --> 00:09:54,826 Dr: Right. You see with these glands, 1mm would be this span, which we're saying is about like that, 127 00:09:54,826 --> 00:09:57,240 That's why from here to here it might be about 7mm. 128 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:03,928 Dr: RBCs are found in just about every microscopic field, and they're always 7micro-m. 129 00:10:03,928 --> 00:10:16,513 When looking here, this is very well formed. You can see these tubular glands, 130 00:10:16,513 --> 00:10:20,646 just a hint over here, because they are like test-tubes, sometimes they're not going straight up and 131 00:10:20,646 --> 00:10:22,690 down, sometimes they look a little on an angle... 132 00:10:22,690 --> 00:10:28,262 S: They actually are reaching the surface, we just don't see it based on the way it's cut? 133 00:10:28,262 --> 00:10:34,764 So this one right here, it was cut at an angle, so it looks embedded there in 2D, 134 00:10:34,764 --> 00:10:37,318 but in 3D we would see a full tube. 135 00:10:37,318 --> 00:10:43,820 Dr: Just to go back to the microscopy, we're seeing this because it's only 4microns thick, 136 00:10:43,820 --> 00:10:48,185 and we're sending light through this tissue. 137 00:10:48,185 --> 00:10:53,293 So that's why you can get a cross-section that doesn't show you 3D. Very much 2D. 138 00:10:53,293 --> 00:11:03,928 S: Cool! So this is what a healthy margin tissue would look like? 139 00:11:03,928 --> 00:11:08,340 Dr: Yes, this is a healthy colon, so you would thankfully say on the proximal margin, 140 00:11:08,340 --> 00:11:13,727 which is up more towards the mouth, that's clear. You take another section like this from the distal 141 00:11:13,727 --> 00:11:17,999 margin, more towards the end, and you say that's clear, so that means they removed the cancer. 142 00:11:17,999 --> 00:11:20,786 S: When you say proximal margin is close to the mouth, 143 00:11:20,786 --> 00:11:27,241 you're saying the mouth of that cut of the tube, not mouth of the person. 144 00:11:27,241 --> 99:59:59,999 Dr: That's right. So the proximal and distal margins are clear, if they look like this.